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Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism

2022-04-12T04:32:42Z

Kg6gfq: /* Is EndMyopia a cult? */

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==Is EndMyopia a money making scheme?==
EndMyopia is not a money making scheme, despite what a lot of people seem to think. The way EndMyopia goes about vision improvement money making is pretty terrible, if that's what we're talking about. Expenditure is relatively high and is a net loss for Jake, as we try to get the word out there. [[BackTo20/20]] exists in part just to fund the high costs of keeping everything running.

If EndMyopia wanted to make more money, the way we preach that results are slow and take a long time should be the first to go - we should tell everyone they'll get '''FAST''' results. Also, no information for free, no free wiki or YouTube tutorials, just "trust me!" and big "Buy Now" button. This isn't the case, because EndMyopia is not a money making scheme. This entire wiki was created from the ground up by non-paid volunteers, and Jake <s>rarely if ever edits</s> [[User:Imperial-beard|doesn't edit]]. That amount of dedication is hard to come by for free on the internet, for something that doesn't work.

But hey - [[Bates method]] guys are pretty dedicated too. What do we know? 🤔

[https://endmyopia.org/is-endmyopia-all-about-making-money/ See this blog post for information about why, paid stuff might not be all that bad]
==Does Jake invest in lens manufacturing companies?==

[https://endmyopia.org/about-us/ Yes.]

==Are the bad reviews being hidden?==
The [https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/endmyopia.org TrustPilot page] is pretty impressive with mostly positive feedback.

Blog post: [https://endmyopia.org/endmyopia-bad-reviews/ Endmyopia: All The Bad Reviews O_0]

==Is it really possible to fix myopia?==
If you listen to us, the answer is an '''unequivocal yes'''. In the vast majority of cases, [[myopia]] is a completely reversible condition of the eye. Myopia is [[lens-induced myopia|lens-induced]] in most cases as a result of questionable optometry practices. Ever question how it's predicted half of the human population will have a severe defect (myopia) in their most important sensory organ by 2050? ''Surely it can't all be genetic...''

With that said, we recommend you do thorough research on topics around vision improvement and come to your own conclusion about whether this is all legitimate or not.
==Lowering diopters doesn’t improve eyesight?==
[https://endmyopia.org/success/ Tell that to the hundreds of people who have confirmed results with EndMyopia], the endless emails [[Jake]] receives in his inbox on a daily basis (had to hire an email manager to go through them all), and the growing number of [[List:YouTubers|YouTube channels]] with testimonials backing up what we say here.

But you're right, this is probably all some scam. A scam where we don't actually try too hard to sell you anything 🤔
==Are the EndMyopia testimonials fake?==
That's an inordinate amount of money to pay to fake that many reviews. Also add in the cost of 17,000 Facebook members (all of which ''must'' be bots), it's just an inordinate sum. '''How much money do you really think this all makes?''' Certainly not enough to purchase all of those fake reviews we're afraid 😁
==Is this based on clinical science?==
Yes. See [[clinical science]].

==Is this pseudoscience?==

Yes. Much of EndMyopia theory is based on clinical science, but the details of Jake's research on his clients are not publicly shared or published. Jake will be the first to tell you he's not an eye doctor.<ref>https://endmyopia.org/quantifying-natural-myopia-reversal-logging-tool-update/</ref>

==Is axial elongation of the eye reversible?==
* Blog post: [https://endmyopia.org/eyes-in-various-species-can-shorten-to-compensate-for-myopic-defocus/ Eyes in Various Species Can Shorten to Compensate for Myopic Defocus]

==What do doctors think about myopia reversal?==
[https://endmyopia.org/endmyopia-friendly-optometrists/ Some optometrists are very supportive]. [https://www.reddit.com/r/glasses/ Others] are [https://www.quora.com/Is-endmymyopia-orgs-information-true-Can-myopia-really-be-reversible/answer/Por-Yong-Ming?ch=15&oid=249656063&share=a3a5dd74&srid=kGuQA&target_type=answer&fbclid=IwAR2757OkDXD8mHyd2a7Thcv_1-9WUIKs1ORyESfe6CfCYvfn1XFjiP04Kqs not so much].

{{Jake says|Natural myopia control is still very much on the experimental side of things.

Nonetheless, there are lot of licensed professionals interested in more holistic ways of dealing with myopia, than endless lens prescriptions, invasive and dangerous laser surgeries, or poisonous substances (atropine, etc).

You can find a behavioural optometrist who is likely interested in alternatives to above.

There are also individuals like Despina, our own contributing licensed optometrist, who find natural myopia control to be an effective tool to protect their eyesight (of course nothing here on the site is licensed or medical advice, or officially endorsed by the mainstream).

We also get quite a few doctors and health care professionals interested in our method. Take a look here: https://endmyopia.org/the-word-is-getting-out/}}
[[Dr._Carr|Dr. Carr]] thinks the way EndMyopia works is actually that we're flattening our lenses. There is apparently a forum conversation with Dr. Carr if you have access to the forum.

==How would I recognise an eyesight scam?==
A massive '''"BUY NOW"''' button is always something to be concerned about. We're very clear about the fact you do not need to purchase anything from us to improve your eyesight.

Anything that preaches [[eye exercises]] and feel good stuff like [[healing crystals]] is also not going to improve your eyesight, but it will make the person who buys these things ''feel'' as if they are improving their eyesight.

{{jake says|First, you want to make a finer distinction, between the well-intentioned by nonetheless worthless content online, and genuinely willful scams.

The well-intentioned usually fall into the Bates method category. Bates was an early 20th century practitioner who found a workable solution to deal with pseudo myopia. Unfortunately most myopia today is of the lens-induced, progressive sort, so Bates practices don’t apply. Sites that promote Bates usually don’t have the training or education to fully understand the underlying biology that they are trying to repair. Because of that, while often well-intentioned, these types of approaches tend to fail for most people.

Well-intentioned sites are often not easy to assess, since they can have a loyal following and strong supporters. The best way to tell is to understand the basic premises of myopia yourself (the two stages, ciliary vs lens-induced, strain, axial elongation, etc). With that, you can look at their premise and get an idea of whether a) they know what they are talking about and b) whether their method deals with real causes in a meaningful way.

Does it sound hoakey? Are words like “eye exercises” and “palming” used? Do they advocate eye vitamins, use a bunch of pseudo science terminology?

Then it’s probably not going to do anything for you.

Scams are much easier to tell. Here is what you want to be looking for:

#Does the site have a slick sales letter? If you are scrolling and scrolling through testimonials and promises and “but wait there is more”, and “special promo pricing”, then it’s almost certainly going to be a scam. How many legitimate services use a sales letter? None. Click out of those things.
#E-mail collectors. If the first thing you see is a pitch to get your e-mail, it’s going to be a scam.
#Appealing to your inner greed. If the pitch sounds like something you really wish to be true (because it sounds so quick and easy), then it’s probably a scam. “Fix your eyes in your sleep”, or “the #1 secret to better eyes”, or “fix your eyes in 30 days”, that’s always, forever going to be a scam.
#Eye vitamins. If you see the words “eye” and “vitamins” anywhere in the same paragraph, click away. It’s a scam.
#Mailing you products. There is zero need for a product. Usually the product is tied to some complicated return policy and refund policy. You need to return the product to get a refund, and they count on you not doing that. If there’ s a product involved, it’s probably a scam.
#No community. If there is no way to tell on the site that the creators are active and participating in the dialog, if you can’t tell what customers are saying, if everything is shrouded in mystery and sales, you know what … it’s probably a scam.
#The biggest scam of all – doctor promoted products. Ortho-k and the whole ilk. Yes, they work (sort of, temporarily) and yes, they are promoted by a large network of real ophthalmologists. Again though, you are being sold a product, and it doesn’t in any way address the root cause of myopia. It’s legit but it’s still a scam.
#The payment method. This is a bit of an insider trick. Payment processors that accept shady businesses (adult entertainment, internet pharmacies, etc), are hard to get your money back from. If they payment processor isn’t clear, avoid the site. If it is, Google it. If they advertise “high risk payment processing”, run. Those outfits you’ll never get your money back from.

Instead, look for legit payment processor. As much as Paypal isn’t so amazing in many ways, it’s a good payment processor If you complain to Paypal, you get a refund. If you complain to American Express, you get a refund. If you complain to Square, you get a refund. If you complain to some shady payment processor, you’ll possibly get nothing.

Let us know when you find scams. We’ll make an effort to put together a scam-directory of sorts, at some point. Scams hurt everybody, not least of all the guys who legitimately want to help you recover your eyesight.}}
==Is EndMyopia a cult?==

Let's take a look!

The first search result for "What is a cult?" returns this link: https://study.com/learn/lesson/cult-characteristics-types-behavior.html . For details on the below bullet points, visit that link and/or some other one from your own search results.
'''✔''' A charismatic leader

'''X''' Ideological purity > doing your own research and reaching your own conclusions is encouraged

'''X''' Conformity and control

'''✔''' Mind-altering practices > [[Active_Focus]]

'''X''' Isolation and love-bombing

'''✔''' Us-vs-them mentality

'''X''' Apocalyptic thinking - however, people with higher myopia are more prone to eye health issues such as retinal detachment

'''✔''' Time and energy - Want to learn how to reverse your myopia? Close work is bad for your eyes! Now spend many hours learning more!

From the article:

* "''Cults often isolate their members from friends and family on the outside, punish doubts or questions, and require inordinate sacrifices and money from followers''" - '''Share what you're learning with your friends and family. Ask questions. Do your own research. Keep getting regular eye health checkups.'''

* "''a cult is a group of people who fanatically follow one person or belief system while also engaging in a number of dangerous practices.''" '''In conclusion''', EndMyopia has a lot of the traits of a cult, but unless you think this is dangerous, it's probably not a cult. Or if it is, it's probably harmless so whatever.
'''[https://nothorses.tumblr.com/post/646493048871763968/just-a-quick-addition-look-for-bite-stuff-in "the cardinal rules of not getting cult'd"]'''

==Finding and Evaluating Online Health Resources ==
'''[https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/finding-and-evaluating-online-resources?nav=govd Here is a detailed article]''' on things to think about when you read about health online.

==What’s the key way to improve my eyesight?==
{{main|The Eyesight Improvement Equation}}
It's pretty simple. [[Normalized glasses]], combined with [[distance vision]] and relaxing your [[ciliary muscle]] ([[Active Focus]]). Also, making sure your [[screen habits]] aren't undoing all of that hard work, so use [[differentials]] or no glasses for [[close work]], depending on your eyes.

That's it - people seem to overcomplicate this stuff for no reason {{smiley}}
==Citations==

Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism

2022-04-12T04:13:25Z

Kg6gfq: /* Is EndMyopia a cult? */ resource

{{FAQ boxes}}''''
{{clear}}
==Is EndMyopia a money making scheme?==
EndMyopia is not a money making scheme, despite what a lot of people seem to think. The way EndMyopia goes about vision improvement money making is pretty terrible, if that's what we're talking about. Expenditure is relatively high and is a net loss for Jake, as we try to get the word out there. [[BackTo20/20]] exists in part just to fund the high costs of keeping everything running.

If EndMyopia wanted to make more money, the way we preach that results are slow and take a long time should be the first to go - we should tell everyone they'll get '''FAST''' results. Also, no information for free, no free wiki or YouTube tutorials, just "trust me!" and big "Buy Now" button. This isn't the case, because EndMyopia is not a money making scheme. This entire wiki was created from the ground up by non-paid volunteers, and Jake <s>rarely if ever edits</s> [[User:Imperial-beard|doesn't edit]]. That amount of dedication is hard to come by for free on the internet, for something that doesn't work.

But hey - [[Bates method]] guys are pretty dedicated too. What do we know? 🤔

[https://endmyopia.org/is-endmyopia-all-about-making-money/ See this blog post for information about why, paid stuff might not be all that bad]
==Does Jake invest in lens manufacturing companies?==

[https://endmyopia.org/about-us/ Yes.]

==Are the bad reviews being hidden?==
The [https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/endmyopia.org TrustPilot page] is pretty impressive with mostly positive feedback.

Blog post: [https://endmyopia.org/endmyopia-bad-reviews/ Endmyopia: All The Bad Reviews O_0]

==Is it really possible to fix myopia?==
If you listen to us, the answer is an '''unequivocal yes'''. In the vast majority of cases, [[myopia]] is a completely reversible condition of the eye. Myopia is [[lens-induced myopia|lens-induced]] in most cases as a result of questionable optometry practices. Ever question how it's predicted half of the human population will have a severe defect (myopia) in their most important sensory organ by 2050? ''Surely it can't all be genetic...''

With that said, we recommend you do thorough research on topics around vision improvement and come to your own conclusion about whether this is all legitimate or not.
==Lowering diopters doesn’t improve eyesight?==
[https://endmyopia.org/success/ Tell that to the hundreds of people who have confirmed results with EndMyopia], the endless emails [[Jake]] receives in his inbox on a daily basis (had to hire an email manager to go through them all), and the growing number of [[List:YouTubers|YouTube channels]] with testimonials backing up what we say here.

But you're right, this is probably all some scam. A scam where we don't actually try too hard to sell you anything 🤔
==Are the EndMyopia testimonials fake?==
That's an inordinate amount of money to pay to fake that many reviews. Also add in the cost of 17,000 Facebook members (all of which ''must'' be bots), it's just an inordinate sum. '''How much money do you really think this all makes?''' Certainly not enough to purchase all of those fake reviews we're afraid 😁
==Is this based on clinical science?==
Yes. See [[clinical science]].

==Is this pseudoscience?==

Yes. Much of EndMyopia theory is based on clinical science, but the details of Jake's research on his clients are not publicly shared or published. Jake will be the first to tell you he's not an eye doctor.<ref>https://endmyopia.org/quantifying-natural-myopia-reversal-logging-tool-update/</ref>

==Is axial elongation of the eye reversible?==
* Blog post: [https://endmyopia.org/eyes-in-various-species-can-shorten-to-compensate-for-myopic-defocus/ Eyes in Various Species Can Shorten to Compensate for Myopic Defocus]

==What do doctors think about myopia reversal?==
[https://endmyopia.org/endmyopia-friendly-optometrists/ Some optometrists are very supportive]. [https://www.reddit.com/r/glasses/ Others] are [https://www.quora.com/Is-endmymyopia-orgs-information-true-Can-myopia-really-be-reversible/answer/Por-Yong-Ming?ch=15&oid=249656063&share=a3a5dd74&srid=kGuQA&target_type=answer&fbclid=IwAR2757OkDXD8mHyd2a7Thcv_1-9WUIKs1ORyESfe6CfCYvfn1XFjiP04Kqs not so much].

{{Jake says|Natural myopia control is still very much on the experimental side of things.

Nonetheless, there are lot of licensed professionals interested in more holistic ways of dealing with myopia, than endless lens prescriptions, invasive and dangerous laser surgeries, or poisonous substances (atropine, etc).

You can find a behavioural optometrist who is likely interested in alternatives to above.

There are also individuals like Despina, our own contributing licensed optometrist, who find natural myopia control to be an effective tool to protect their eyesight (of course nothing here on the site is licensed or medical advice, or officially endorsed by the mainstream).

We also get quite a few doctors and health care professionals interested in our method. Take a look here: https://endmyopia.org/the-word-is-getting-out/}}
[[Dr._Carr|Dr. Carr]] thinks the way EndMyopia works is actually that we're flattening our lenses. There is apparently a forum conversation with Dr. Carr if you have access to the forum.

==How would I recognise an eyesight scam?==
A massive '''"BUY NOW"''' button is always something to be concerned about. We're very clear about the fact you do not need to purchase anything from us to improve your eyesight.

Anything that preaches [[eye exercises]] and feel good stuff like [[healing crystals]] is also not going to improve your eyesight, but it will make the person who buys these things ''feel'' as if they are improving their eyesight.

{{jake says|First, you want to make a finer distinction, between the well-intentioned by nonetheless worthless content online, and genuinely willful scams.

The well-intentioned usually fall into the Bates method category. Bates was an early 20th century practitioner who found a workable solution to deal with pseudo myopia. Unfortunately most myopia today is of the lens-induced, progressive sort, so Bates practices don’t apply. Sites that promote Bates usually don’t have the training or education to fully understand the underlying biology that they are trying to repair. Because of that, while often well-intentioned, these types of approaches tend to fail for most people.

Well-intentioned sites are often not easy to assess, since they can have a loyal following and strong supporters. The best way to tell is to understand the basic premises of myopia yourself (the two stages, ciliary vs lens-induced, strain, axial elongation, etc). With that, you can look at their premise and get an idea of whether a) they know what they are talking about and b) whether their method deals with real causes in a meaningful way.

Does it sound hoakey? Are words like “eye exercises” and “palming” used? Do they advocate eye vitamins, use a bunch of pseudo science terminology?

Then it’s probably not going to do anything for you.

Scams are much easier to tell. Here is what you want to be looking for:

#Does the site have a slick sales letter? If you are scrolling and scrolling through testimonials and promises and “but wait there is more”, and “special promo pricing”, then it’s almost certainly going to be a scam. How many legitimate services use a sales letter? None. Click out of those things.
#E-mail collectors. If the first thing you see is a pitch to get your e-mail, it’s going to be a scam.
#Appealing to your inner greed. If the pitch sounds like something you really wish to be true (because it sounds so quick and easy), then it’s probably a scam. “Fix your eyes in your sleep”, or “the #1 secret to better eyes”, or “fix your eyes in 30 days”, that’s always, forever going to be a scam.
#Eye vitamins. If you see the words “eye” and “vitamins” anywhere in the same paragraph, click away. It’s a scam.
#Mailing you products. There is zero need for a product. Usually the product is tied to some complicated return policy and refund policy. You need to return the product to get a refund, and they count on you not doing that. If there’ s a product involved, it’s probably a scam.
#No community. If there is no way to tell on the site that the creators are active and participating in the dialog, if you can’t tell what customers are saying, if everything is shrouded in mystery and sales, you know what … it’s probably a scam.
#The biggest scam of all – doctor promoted products. Ortho-k and the whole ilk. Yes, they work (sort of, temporarily) and yes, they are promoted by a large network of real ophthalmologists. Again though, you are being sold a product, and it doesn’t in any way address the root cause of myopia. It’s legit but it’s still a scam.
#The payment method. This is a bit of an insider trick. Payment processors that accept shady businesses (adult entertainment, internet pharmacies, etc), are hard to get your money back from. If they payment processor isn’t clear, avoid the site. If it is, Google it. If they advertise “high risk payment processing”, run. Those outfits you’ll never get your money back from.

Instead, look for legit payment processor. As much as Paypal isn’t so amazing in many ways, it’s a good payment processor If you complain to Paypal, you get a refund. If you complain to American Express, you get a refund. If you complain to Square, you get a refund. If you complain to some shady payment processor, you’ll possibly get nothing.

Let us know when you find scams. We’ll make an effort to put together a scam-directory of sorts, at some point. Scams hurt everybody, not least of all the guys who legitimately want to help you recover your eyesight.}}
==Is EndMyopia a cult?==

Let's take a look!

The first search result for "What is a cult?" returns this link: https://study.com/learn/lesson/cult-characteristics-types-behavior.html . For details on the below bullet points, visit that link and/or some other one from your own search results.
'''✔''' A charismatic leader

'''X''' Ideological purity > doing your own research and reaching your own conclusions is encouraged

'''X''' Conformity and control

'''✔''' Mind-altering practices > [[Active_Focus]]

'''X''' Isolation and love-bombing

'''✔''' Us-vs-them mentality
"the cardinal rules of not getting cult'd"
'''X''' Apocalyptic thinking - however, people with higher myopia are more prone to eye health issues such as retinal detachment

'''✔''' Time and energy - Want to learn how to reverse your myopia? Close work is bad for your eyes! Now spend many hours learning more!

From the article:

* "''Cults often isolate their members from friends and family on the outside, punish doubts or questions, and require inordinate sacrifices and money from followers''" - '''Share what you're learning with your friends and family. Ask questions. Do your own research. Keep getting regular eye health checkups.'''

* "''a cult is a group of people who fanatically follow one person or belief system while also engaging in a number of dangerous practices.''" '''In conclusion''', EndMyopia has a lot of the traits of a cult, but unless you think this is dangerous, it's probably not a cult. Or if it is, it's probably harmless so whatever.
'''[https://nothorses.tumblr.com/post/646493048871763968/just-a-quick-addition-look-for-bite-stuff-in "the cardinal rules of not getting cult'd"]'''

==Finding and Evaluating Online Health Resources ==
'''[https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/finding-and-evaluating-online-resources?nav=govd Here is a detailed article]''' on things to think about when you read about health online.

==What’s the key way to improve my eyesight?==
{{main|The Eyesight Improvement Equation}}
It's pretty simple. [[Normalized glasses]], combined with [[distance vision]] and relaxing your [[ciliary muscle]] ([[Active Focus]]). Also, making sure your [[screen habits]] aren't undoing all of that hard work, so use [[differentials]] or no glasses for [[close work]], depending on your eyes.

That's it - people seem to overcomplicate this stuff for no reason {{smiley}}
==Citations==

IRL Day

2022-02-20T21:59:29Z

Kg6gfq:

'''No Internet Day''' is more commonly known as '''IRL Day'''. IRL Day is a opportunity to celebrate the EndMyopia tenet to ''spend time outdoors''.<ref>https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/Clinical_Studies#Outdoor_time_.26_distance_vision</ref><ref>https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/Clinical_Studies#Causes_of_Myopia</ref>

You leave all your mobile screens in a pile, and the ''Internet Fairy'' comes and ferries them away in the night. Leave out towels for the fairy to use on any larger screens.
{{jake says|I went to the park this weekend. I forcibly exile myself from screens, from e-mail, from smartphones. I feel the pull, after a few hours all I want is the warm glow of my laptop screen. Odds are that you too are in a similar boat.}}<ref>https://endmyopia.org/close-up-addiction/</ref>

==Is the Internet Fairy real?==

Yes, there are many Internet Fairies.<ref>https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/IRL_Day#Is_the_Internet_Fairy_real.3F</ref> It is well-known that '''the Internet Fairy is yourself or someone else in your household.'''

==When is IRL Day?==

Timing wise, IRL Day is more like the birthday of an acquaintance or a good friend than like a major holiday that everyone celebrates at the same time. This means that different people celebrate IRL Day at different times.

In some hyperlocal regions, the internet fairies are only able to ferry away screens for part of a day.

==Frequency==

Some fortunate people are able to attract Internet Fairies and may frequently experience several IRL Days in a row!

==What colors are associated with IRL Day?==

'''Rainbow.'''

[[File:Rainbow1.svg]]

 
Rainbow is associated with IRL Day. You might see one if you go outside.

==Common Traditions==
* Fresh air and sunshine is a common way to celebrate IRL Day

* Catching up on chores is another common (less talked about) feature
* Tasty food
==Why celebrate IRL day?==
* It's a good habit for improving your vision.<ref>https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/Clinical_Studies#Outdoor_time_.26_distance_vision</ref><ref>https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/Clinical_Studies#Causes_of_Myopia</ref>

* Having a story associated with the habit of spending time outside may help you remember to do it - and may help you think of it as something fun instead of a necessary chore.<ref>https://www.harvardbusiness.org/what-makes-storytelling-so-effective-for-learning/</ref><ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/positively-media/201101/the-psychological-power-storytelling</ref> (Of course, it is fun! But the story can help you remember that when part of your brain is going "But I just want to read one more thing on the EndMyopia Wiki...")
==References==

[[Category:Habits]]

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-23T01:26:11Z

Kg6gfq:

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these eyes are. These eyes are an edge case that isn't covered in the [https://community.endmyopia.org/t/working-group-on-astigmatism-guide/14060 Working Group on Astigmatism Guide].'''

==Future Glasses==

===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28
==January 2022==

===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:47:42Z

Kg6gfq:

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these eyes are. These eyes are an edge case that isn't covered in the [https://community.endmyopia.org/t/working-group-on-astigmatism-guide/14060 Working Group on Astigmatism Guide].'''

==Future Glasses==

===Equalizing sphere (do first)===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye (do next)===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:36:53Z

Kg6gfq: /* Equalizing sphere (do first) */

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.'''

==Future Glasses==

===Equalizing sphere (do first)===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye (do next)===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:36:10Z

Kg6gfq: /* Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye */

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.'''

==Future Glasses==

===Equalizing sphere (do first)===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye (do next)===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:35:55Z

Kg6gfq: /* Equalizing sphere */

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.'''

==Future Glasses==

===Equalizing sphere (do first)===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:34:53Z

Kg6gfq:

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.'''

==Future Glasses==

===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:34:35Z

Kg6gfq: /* Future Glasses */

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

'''Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.'''

==Future Glasses==''''

===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:33:38Z

Kg6gfq:

'''GLASSES HISTORY'''

==Future Glasses==
**Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.**
===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:31:34Z

Kg6gfq:

=Glasses History=

==Future Glasses==
**Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.**
===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

PD 59

=Before EndMyopia=

==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:30:01Z

Kg6gfq:

=Glasses History=

==Future Glasses==
**Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.**
===Equalizing sphere===
====Normal====
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

====Normal====

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

====Differential (close-up)====

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===EndMyopia Discovery: First Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59
==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:28:26Z

Kg6gfq:

=Glasses History===Future Glasses==

**Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.**
===Equalizing sphere===
===Normal===
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

===Normal===

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

===Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

==October 2021==
===EndMyopia Discovery
Differential (close-up)===

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59
==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5

==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==March 2010==
===New helmet mirror and new astigmatism===
Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].
==December 2008==
Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:21:30Z

Kg6gfq:

=Glasses History=

==December 2008==

Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

==March 2010==

Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror. Use of helmet mirror continues until present day [as of January 2022].

==October 2013==

Prescription Safety Glasses

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15
==July 2018==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 155

OS: -1.5 sphere, -1.5 cylinder, axis 33
==July 2021==

Prescription

OD: -3.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59.5
==October 2021==

Differential (close-up)

OD: -1.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
PD 59

**Note how weird these glasses are. These glasses are an edge case that isn't covered in the astigmatism guide.**

==Future Glasses==
===Equalizing sphere===

Normalized
OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142
OS: -1.75 sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28

Differential (close-up)

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: no sphere, -1.75 cylinder, axis 28
===Converting cylinder to sphere in the left eye===

Normalized

OD: -3 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -2.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

Differential (close-up)

OD: -1.25 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 142

OS: -0.5 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 28

User:Kg6gfq

2022-01-09T02:07:45Z

Kg6gfq: save early and often

=Glasses History=

==December 2008==

Prescription

OD: -4 sphere

OS: -2 sphere

==March 2010==

Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere

OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

Note: Increase in cylinder correlates with when Darin started wearing a bike helmet mirror.

==October 2013==

Prescription

OD: -4.25 sphere
OS: -2 sphere, -.75 cylinder, axis 15

==July 2018==

User talk:NottNott

2021-10-17T02:26:23Z

Kg6gfq: /* Animated gifs trigger seizures */

{{DISPLAYTITLE:User talk:NottNott}}
{{troutme}}
{{User:NottNott/notmywiki|right}}

<center>{{Talk header}}</center>
This is my talk page, where you can send me messages. Be sure to read [[EM:Talk pages]] before doing so!
{{clear}}
== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


== Help:Pictures ==

Suggest you make $wgAllowExternalImages false. Image hosts can and not infrequently do, convert all linked images to ads, porn or worse. It's only one line of config code for a host to replace all incoming links with a different image. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 09:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{Tobedone}} Okay, will do. I have rough concerns in how it can be abused for sure. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 10:07, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{done}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 11:42, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

== Errors on page ==

Math display errors on [[Optics related math]]. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 13:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} Purging the cache of the page fixed the problem {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 14:09, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

== Essential? ==

: Re [[Explainer talk:The Eyesight Improvement Equation|The Eyesight Improvement Equation]]. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 11:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

== Page footer ==

The page footer on this wiki wants to be stonger worded. Maybe like the Wikipedia footer "By using this site, you agree to the [https://endmyopia.org/terms-conditions/ Terms of Use] and [https://endmyopia.org/privacy-policy/ Privacy Policy]". [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 14:51, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{done|Doneish}}, no preamble, but hard links to the things where there were originally none. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
::Excellent fast work. Could [https://endmyopia.org/terms-conditions/ Terms of Use] be added to the mobile footer. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 22:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
:::{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{done}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:29, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

== Forum ==

Could you update the image use on [[EndMyopia Forum]]. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 17:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{done}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

== Edit ==

[https://wiki.endmyopia.org/index.php?title=Help:How_to_contribute&curid=499&diff=14889&oldid=13990 Overreaction much??] [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 16:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} Oh yeah just realised that stops the writing system lol. Okay will undo that and fix the abuse filter instead. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Viceroy Sam}} {{fixed}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

== Banned from Forum ==

I created a forum account yesterday, and it was banned for no reason, before I even had a chance to set up a profile picture.

Anyway, on my user page, I wrote an introduction that I would have posted, which provides my insights about blur adaptation.
:{{re|User}} Do you know what your username was on the forum? I can totally look into this for you. If your username was 'User' there's a strong chance the system filtered it out. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 01:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
::It was something like a-user. Maybe it was the masked email that they didn't like?
:::{{re|User}} That should be approved for you now, I found your email in the blocked account logs. Let me know if it works now - your intro sounds good for the forum {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately, I had already deleted that email. Also, I tried to sign up using another one, but it says my IP address is banned.
:::::{{re|User}} You should be allowed now. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:11, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
::::::I've created my account, and it needs a mod to approve.

== Animated gifs trigger seizures ==

Animated gifs trigger epileptic reactions and migraines in some people.

I am prone to migraines and have a strong response to that sort of visual thing myself. I did a study where they tested my pain response and I did better than most people. Then they flashed lights at me, and I did worse than most people (asked them to stop the flashing lights a LOT sooner) and got a bad migraine. And I have it easy!

Alt text won't fix this. Alt text is useful if you need a screen reader.

Maybe we can work together to find static gifs to replace them? I would have done so myself, but I don't have the wiki skillz. Thanks, [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 23:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

P.S. The standardized ways of still having animated gifs are to have an "off" option or to have gifs that stop being animated after no more than 5 seconds.

[[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 23:31, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Angel}} You removed a gif of a man shaking his head and a SpongeBob character slowly coming out of a door. I don't see how images such as those could cause severe migraines as you've said - if they do you should be configuring your web browser to suit your needs imo. I can kind of see where you were coming from with the fireworks on the points mean prizes page.

:I think the wiki is good with colourful variety that does not cause issues for the overwhelming majority of readers. Like we could put the wiki in Comic Sans as well to help dyslexic readers, but they really should be configuring their own browser. I hope you see where I'm coming from {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:42, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

I just agreed to the terms of use over in the discord, and the last rule was about creating a welcoming space. That's my area of expertise, creating spaces that are welcoming for everyone. I do this professionally. This is about creating a welcoming space for the most vulnerable wiki users.

I see where you're coming from, been there. But what about people who use library computers, shared computers, or other public computers? What about people who don't know how to use computers? What about people who don't know what gives them migraines or seizures?

It doesn't hurt the existing wiki users to use images that don't give people seizures. But it might give someone a seizure if we leave them there. Like, that's fine when we don't know better. But once we know better, we have a responsibility to do better.

Just like I don't want my optometrist to give me a prescription that's going to make my eyes worse, I don't want be responsible for maybe giving people a seizure.
[[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 00:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

P.S. I am confident in our powers of imagination to find some sweet non-animated gifs. Can you help me find and put in some replacements that stop after 5 seconds or that don't move?

[[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 00:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Compromise suggestion: Put animated GIFs in collapsible elements that are collapsed by default. I haven't tried it yet on this wiki, but it looks like the instructions are here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Collapsible_elements

[[User:Kg6gfq|Kg6gfq]] ([[User talk:Kg6gfq|talk]]) 00:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
:{{re|Kg6gfq}} I have no idea where you came from but that's a brilliant idea. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 00:44, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

{{re|Angel}} {{done}} Thanks to {{u|Kg6gfq}}'s amazing idea (seriously where did you come from man) every single gif on every article in the wiki is now collapsible fulfilling WCAG 2.0 SC 2.2.2. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 01:19, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

:Yay! Glad it was helpful. I'm [[User:Angel|Angel]]'s partner. She was telling me about this and said something like "there must be a technical solution but I don't know what it is" so I did a little searching. MediaWiki has a pretty decent manual. Quick work applying it to all the gifs, NottNott - that's awesome! [[User:Kg6gfq|Kg6gfq]] ([[User talk:Kg6gfq|talk]]) 02:26, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
The internet is a better place. Thank you kg6gfq for knowing where to point us, thank you NottNott for implementing it like instantly. Team work!

(Kg6gfq came from my irl; he's my partner!)

[[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 02:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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Kg6gfq: /* Animated gifs trigger seizures */ - collapsible elements?