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User talk:SilentNote

2020-06-20T08:56:47Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
SilentNote, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

Our goal is '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. EndMyopia receives quite a lot of [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]], many people wanting information. On [[EM:social media|social media]] plenty of questions are asked about vision improvement. Hopefully, the wiki can develop into a really useful resource for newcomers and experienced members alike.

More guidance here:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you can message anyone [[EM:Welcome|on this list]]. You'll get a response in the [[forum]] or [[discord server]] as well. If there are any suggestions for overall wiki changes, see the [[EM:Village pump|village pump]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Imperial-beard

2020-06-20T08:56:30Z

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{{Template:Welcome|realName=Jake Steiner|name=Imperial-beard}}

-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 01:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

== Welcome! ==

Welcome to the wiki, that's a very long beard. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 01:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Technical Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for all of the backend config goodies! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Divenal

2020-06-20T08:55:43Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
Divenal, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

We hope you'll have a good time here, writing about [[eyeballs]]. Every article is important to empower [[myope]]s to improve their eyesight. 📚🤓

The objective of EndMyopia Wiki is to build '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. Please write articles of interest to you. EndMyopia recieves a lot more [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]] than you might think at first. On [[EM:social media|social media]] the community recieves plenty of questions about vision improvement, particularly in the Facebook group and in YouTube comments every day. If you can help write articles that address these common questions, you will be helping a lot of people! 🤠

Please read the following before editing:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you will likely get a fast response from the [{{discord}} Discord server]. If there are any suggestions for improvement, [[User talk:NottNott|please contact NottNott]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

== Be bold! ==

Hiya Divenal. [[EM:Be bold|Be bold]] and change it! :) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 10:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

== Referencing articles ==

Check out [[Help:Referencing]], I added the amazing tool you've shown off to it. That thing is brilliant!!! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 14:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|NottNott}} :-) There was one thing I wanted to check out - what if I want to refer to the same reference from more than one place in the text? I noticed that the citation tool uses <nowiki><ref name=...>{{...}}</ref></nowiki> so I assume you just need to do another ref but reuse the name you used in some way. But I can possibly figure it out by looking at wikipedia pages or something. (Or just RTFM.) [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]])
::Check the source for this talk page: <ref name=referencelol>blah blah blah</ref>

::More text<ref name="referencelol" />. Syntax is finnicky, looks like you need "" and the backslash in <nowiki><ref name="referencelol" /></nowiki> for calling the reference later in the article. That's dumb. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 14:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{re|NottNott}} thanks. Syntax looks perfectly regular, if you know XML ! The / before the closing > is magic to make it valid. XML tags must always be balanced, and the slash tells it that this doesn't need a closing tag (or any body). It's completely equivalent to <nowiki><ref name="referencelol"></ref></nowiki> <ref name="referencelol"></ref>, but shorter. [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]])
:::<ref name=referencelol></ref> Oh wow, you can even get rid of the "" if you do <nowiki><ref name=referencelol></ref></nowiki>. Cool stuff!!! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 14:55, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Welcome, sysop Divenal ==

Maybe you'll need the tools at some point, maybe you won't {{grin}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== On wikEd ==

Agreed that sometimes it's slow. You can enable and disable it by clicking it in the top right (as I'm sure you're doing). Sometimes it's good, sometimes it just slows someone down. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|NottNott}} Actually I have it turned off in preferences, in the gadgets section. (Speaking of preferences, I've still never got the popup text for hyperlinks working. While it used to work only when logged out, it now never seems to work at all. Weird.) [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]])
::Popups seem to work fine when I just viewed the wiki logged out. Huh. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgee3IGYZsU It's a mystery] -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:DezziBugKiller

2020-06-20T08:55:34Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
DezziBugKiller, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

Our goal is '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. EndMyopia receives quite a lot of [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]], many people wanting information. On [[EM:social media|social media]] plenty of questions are asked about vision improvement. Hopefully, the wiki can develop into a really useful resource for newcomers and experienced members alike.

More guidance here:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you can message anyone [[EM:Welcome|on this list]]. You'll get a response in the [[forum]] or [[discord server]] as well. If there are any suggestions for overall wiki changes, see the [[EM:Village pump|village pump]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:06, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
:Welcome Dezzi! [[User:Sam.Watson|Sam.Watson]] ([[User talk:Sam.Watson|talk]]) 23:07, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Deadpan

2020-06-20T08:55:32Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
Deadpan, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

Our goal is '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. EndMyopia receives quite a lot of [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]], many people wanting information. On [[EM:social media|social media]] plenty of questions are asked about vision improvement. Hopefully, the wiki can develop into a really useful resource for newcomers and experienced members alike.

More guidance here:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you can message anyone [[EM:Welcome|on this list]]. You'll get a response in the [[forum]] or [[discord server]] as well. If there are any suggestions for overall wiki changes, see the [[EM:Village pump|village pump]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== Welcome, admin Deadpan ==

Cheers for contributing to the wiki {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:AznDudeIsOn

2020-06-20T08:55:07Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
AznDudeIsOn, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

Our goal is '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. EndMyopia receives quite a lot of [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]], many people wanting information. On [[EM:social media|social media]] plenty of questions are asked about vision improvement. Hopefully, the wiki can develop into a really useful resource for newcomers and experienced members alike.

More guidance here:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you can message anyone [[EM:Welcome|on this list]]. You'll get a response in the [[forum]] or [[discord server]] as well. If there are any suggestions for overall wiki changes, see the [[EM:Village pump|village pump]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 04:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Iceghoul

2020-06-20T08:54:40Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
Iceghoul, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

Our goal is '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. EndMyopia receives quite a lot of [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]], many people wanting information. On [[EM:social media|social media]] plenty of questions are asked about vision improvement. Hopefully, the wiki can develop into a really useful resource for newcomers and experienced members alike.

More guidance here:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you can message anyone [[EM:Welcome|on this list]]. You'll get a response in the [[forum]] or [[discord server]] as well. If there are any suggestions for overall wiki changes, see the [[EM:Village pump|village pump]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

== Welcome, admin Iceghoul ==

{{shrug}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 16:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Heddy

2020-06-20T08:54:22Z

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==Welcome!==
Welcome to the wiki :) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 21:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
: Hi! I'm happy that a vision improvement wiki exists now. I'll contribute what I can. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
::Go for it! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 21:13, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

== On imports from Wikipedia ==

By the way, kind of messed up and imported loads of pages from Wikipedia. Will likely need an extension to clear up the mess I've made. Either that, or with some extension magic we get all the templates working beautifully. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
:The easiest way to delete many pages at once would be [[mw:Extension:DeleteBatch|DeleteBatch]]. On the [[Special:Log/import|import log]], I see about 100 pages imported. I'd be happy to mop that up once you're able to add extensions. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 23:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
::That's definitely the way forward. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Administrator Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar'''
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for all the work you've done for such a young wiki :) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
|}

== On spamming the wiki with loads of templates ==

Heya, I'm currently trying to get [[Wikipedia:WP:ProveIt|WP:ProveIt]] to work identically there as it would do here, for the most user friendly citing experience possible. This means I'm mass importing thousands of pages, and probably most of them are useless. It's okay though, nobody has to see them and tidying up won't be necessary. {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|NottNott}} Looks like ProveIt just uses [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ProveIt a few citation templates]. Why not just import those? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 17:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
::(Huh, looks like the notification system is bust. It was working earlier, I literally tested it!)

::It's not quite that simple although I wish it was. We also have to import the TemplateData from the documentation pages with every template because ProveIt relies on the TemplateData to generate the fields for citing. [[Template:Cite web]] has no TemplateData on it, but [[Template:Cite web/doc]] has detailed TemplateData on it. I'm not sure if ProveIt is looking to the template instead of the documentation for the TemplateData, and something funky needs to be done with transclusion, or whether ProveIt is just taking its time to update its information. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 17:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I see, so the shotgun approach is necessary. Well, I'm a bit of a deletionist, so I might be tempted to delete some useless things when you've got it working! [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 18:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't bother. This entire wiki takes up less than 500mb at the moment, and we're not really capped on pages we can have. You can be a deletionist as long as you promise it won't break anything {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 18:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Testing the re template again ==

I have no clue why it's suddenly started working again. Can you try using the template? You need to sign with your signature to make it work (you'd do that anyway) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|NottNott}} Testing. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 22:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
::Okay that works! Thanks a lot :D -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Articles category ==

Heya, I love the work you've done on categorising content so far, really handy for those images. I'm wondering if the Articles category is strictly necessary, as anything in mainspace could fall under this category - one could find this out by finding looking for all pages in mainspace and hiding redirects instead. Let me know what you think {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|NottNott}} Yeah, it may appear redundant at first. But take a closer look... Category:Articles is a super-category meant to contain sub-categories. Look at [[:Category:Articles]] and see that there are already several sub-categories. I'd probably further categorize everything as groups like "medical conditions", "techniques", "core EndMyopia concepts", etc. Note that categorizing pages causes a convenient category link to appear at the bottom of wiki pages, whereas the [[Special:AllPages]] that you are referring to is not part of site navigation. In addition, Special:AllPages is less friendly to use due to not having the big letters or sub-categories. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
::Awesome explainer! I have not done any categorising work on a wiki before so I would not know. Thanks {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
::Hi Heedy! I brought the same issue up yesterday with NottNott here. Perhaps you could explain the benefit to you. Is it site navigation as you imply above, is there something more? [[User:Sam.Watson|Sam.Watson]] ([[User talk:Sam.Watson|talk]]) 11:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{Re|Sam.Watson}} Yes, categories make it easier to find related articles and they are part of site navigation (just look at the bottom of the article for the category navigation bar). Also, there is no reason to ''not'' categorize things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 14:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Laurens

2020-06-20T08:53:57Z

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Thanks Andrew, I just put the concept for the '''Start your improvement here''' page into this wiki. It will require some polishing and better linking, but it's a start. Good to be onboard!
I'll insert a copy of the AF Guide from Le Meow later on. Enough Wiki-editing for the day :D.
-[[User:Laurens|Laurens]] ([[User talk:Laurens|talk]]) 12:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

==Welcome, bureaucrat!==
Enjoy the tools. Still waiting on getting the wiki configured. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 10:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

== On using talk pages ==

No problem Laurens. To leave a signature, type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your sig and a timestamp, or <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> for just your signature. This will autofill to this: -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

== Great going Andrew ==

I'm really impressed with your work so far. Amazing! I just converted the AF Guide from Le Meow onto here. In time for the "Grand opening :D"

[[User:Laurens|Laurens]] ([[User talk:Laurens|talk]]) 19:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
:Glad you like it so far! In future - you'll want to contact me on [[user talk:NottNott|my talk page]]. Or, you can contact me from any page using <nowiki>{{re|NottNott}}</nowiki> - this sends a notification to me. {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:42, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

== The Bates Page ==
{{re|NottNott}}: Do you mind if I hack into the Bates page a bit? I share your stance on it being B$, but right now it's not as "neutral" as it should be and with this being how it is now, it could scare off new-comers.

[[User:Laurens|Laurens]] ([[User talk:Laurens|talk]]) 20:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
:<s>One of these days, I'm going to make a secret video where I scream into the camera the entire contents of [[EM:Be bold]]</s> Sure, go for it {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Dlskidmore

2020-06-20T08:53:51Z

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==Welcome!==
Welcome to the wiki. :) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== On talk pages ==

That's it! Talk pages are just regular pages with a designated purpose. 'User talk:' is the namespace.

At the moment, because the wiki is COMPLETELY stock with no extensions or anything, the notification system won't work well. Normally I can type something like <nowiki>{{re|Dlskidmore}}</nowiki> to notify you regardless of the talk page you posted to. As it stands, you shouldn't get notified if I replied to your message you left on my talk page. I might be wrong, but you shouldn't. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
:Yup! You can stack multiple colons to indent as well. Talk pages are pretty easy, don't you think? There's extensions that can make this system even more foolproof, but I really don't think the learning curve is that hard.
::Like this
:::Or like this.

So, assuming the notification system was working, and you sent me a message on my talk page:

<code>
<nowiki>Something -Dlskidmore</nowiki>

<nowiki>:{{re|Dlskidmore}} Response. -NottNott</nowiki>
</code>

Is how discussion would work. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The "Watch this page" feature is giving notifications [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 21:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Original Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Original Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for helping out in the early days of this project!! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:07, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
|}

Thanks [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 18:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

== Replace Text ==

Hey admin, try out [[Special:ReplaceText]]. It'll let you do what you're doing across the entire wiki. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

So now you tell me... Seriously though, I didn't want a universal replacement, there are a few key references left, and I didn't use the exact same replacement in all cases. Sometimes it was an extraneous word I dropped, sometimes I put lens selection, sometimes lens. [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 01:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

== Section headers ==

Heya, thanks for the good edits. Just a heads up, you want to use

<nowiki>==Section title==</nowiki>

with two equal signs on both sides of the title. With only one equal sign, the header is the equivalent of the header at the top of the page. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 21:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Gotcha. Will try to remember [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 14:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Viceroy Sam

2020-06-20T08:53:12Z

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<center>{{Talk header}}</center>

This is my talk page, where you can send me messages.

== You get an adminship, you get an adminship ==

Everybody gets an adminship!!! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:27, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

:Yeah! {{done}} [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 20:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== Done ==

It's {{done}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Copyeditor Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Copyeditor's Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | That's right! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
|}

== Stealing is more fun! ==

I think using policies sounds less exciting, can we steal them instead? I see where you're going on the professional front though {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:I dont think inviting legal issues is wise. Jake doesn't have a lawyer on the books. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 21:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
::You are aware Wikipedia and all its contents are licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License Link]. The heading at the top is definitely attribution. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 21:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I'm well aware of that. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 21:15, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
::::So how are there legal issues? -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 21:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::It encourages [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smear_campaign mud sligging or smear campaign]. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 21:59, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::I think the entire blog and Jake's whole sense of humour is bad enough in that department as it is, a little more won't hurt {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

== Categorising images ==

So you think it's a good idea as well to categorise things that don't seem to need categorising at first too? I'm still slightly lost on it, I must admit.

Do you think it will be easier if we just include the category onto the 'license' templates, so it transcludes across all of the images (instead of manual edits) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 13:20, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|NottNott}} I'd prefer if nothing is categorised really, but with images some of them got categorised already due to categories in some imported templates creating red links, that Heddy [https://wiki.endmyopia.org/index.php?title=Category:EndMyopia_policy_images&action=history made into blue]. So I've added categories to other templates so that categorisation isn't done on each individual file.
:Would it be be easier if we just include the category onto the 'license' templates? Yes, categories in templates seem better then adding a category to me. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 13:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

== Warning and risk templates ==

Do you think it's better if we just import these from Wikipedia? -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Introducing your two new best friends: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export the export page from Wikipedia] and the [https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/Special:Import import page for this wiki]. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:14, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png|100px]]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Technical Barnstar'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Doing what I would have never done in a million years :D -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 13:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
|}

== WP and Wikipedia prefixes are now aliases for EM ==

It's a hardcoded namespace alias now, so [[WP:IAR]] or [[Wikipedia:IAR]] will link to the EM namespace now.

You can remove all redirects you've set-up with WP (if you like) {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:45, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{Re|NottNott}}Great idea, I love it! [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 22:46, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::{{Re|NottNott}} Some issue perhaps? Many pages are going red. [[WP:STUFF]] [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 22:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, that'll be the alias. What did you need those pages for btw?

::(Aliases are good for being lazy too. [[qwer:Box]] works for Template, [[asdf:Sitenotice]] for MediaWiki, [[zxcv:SomeModule]] for Module.) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:55, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:::{{Re|NottNott}} So links could be converted but how do you link to an actual Wikipedia page now? [[Wikipedia:Main Page]] doesn't work. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 23:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Good point, well made. I've deleted the aliases, seems like it'll just cause loads of headaches. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:12, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{Re|NottNott}}I didn't realise until this happened that {{tl|EMpolicy}} {{tl|EM guideline}} etc link to Wikipedia in the right hand shortcut. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 23:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::Yeah....... probably would be an absolute nightmare. Let's not :D -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:18, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{Re|NottNott}}I'm up for a challenge if we could split Wikipedia: and WP: apart. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 23:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I think enabling Wikipedia as an alias will be a super headache. I can reenable WP if you like -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::If you are saying WP goes to EM and Wikipedia goes to Wikipedia then yes. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 23:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::{{done}} Have fun, sadomasochist -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 23:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

== Main page template ==

Is looking GOOD!

One thing I'd say is background colour is important, maybe clear or a lighter shade of blue for content boxes, and clear where currently there's a deeper blue is a good idea.

Also, my video is alright but not sure it's good enough for the main page. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 15:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|NottNott}} Agreed, especial about colours (dark theme wiki? - yes, come on!!), but can change later. [[User:Viceroy Sam|Viceroy Sam]] ([[User talk:Viceroy Sam|talk]]) 15:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::Can look into adding some kind of extension or script thing that allows you to toggle dark and light theme at will, for all visitors (not just signed in wiki editors). From there, there's probably some really cool configuring that can be done to the main page template to change its colours based on that setting. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 15:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

== Realising MediaWiki:Bottom-notice-ns-XXX is not working ==

Got it! Was looking for a shortcut to categorising troubles. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 14:54, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Making the wiki mobile friendly ==

<youtube>3YmMNpbFjp0</youtube>
''(imagine if we implemented [[User:NottNott/Things I'm ignoring consensus on|structured talk pages]]... no embedded videos, that's a travesty.)''

Check out [[EndMyopia:Make it mobile friendly]]. New extension, new tags to play around with. You just disable the desktop version of the site and enable a mobile version of the site with tags. Because all the actual content is on separate pages, this works flawlessly.

Most impressed with the editing navbox (if I do say so myself). {{diff2|8497|Check this diff out}}. Use [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]] to create [[Template:Editing navbox/Links]] which holds all the actual links. Then just link to that page for mobile users. I'll probably do Labeled Section Transclusion with the main page now, especially because 'Left2' means a lot less than 'Joke section'. Try the main page on mobile, works well!

<youtube>WCLbCn_mMco</youtube>
''(wikis are so much fun)''

-[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 00:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

== Footerlinkgate ==

Footlink is now a hard redirect to endmyopia.org {{grin}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:06, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

== I am computer hacker ==

https://media1.giphy.com/media/YQitE4YNQNahy/200.gif

I'm done with Dark Mode fiddling, I think this is as good as I can be bothered to make it. Nightpedia is a lost cause.

Also, enabled external links to other sites. Need to tell people this is only for talk pages and non-content things. See an example in this talk message. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:25, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Phil3741

2020-06-20T08:53:05Z

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==Welcome to EndMyopia Wiki! 👓==
Phil3741, welcome to EndMyopia Wiki.

We hope you'll have a good time here, writing about [[eyeballs]]. Every article is important to empower [[myope]]s to improve their eyesight. 📚🤓

The objective of EndMyopia Wiki is to build '''the best vision improvement encyclopedia possible'''. Please write articles of interest to you. EndMyopia receives a lot more [[EM:user traffic|user traffic]] than you might think at first. On [[EM:social media|social media]] the community receives plenty of questions about vision improvement, particularly in the Facebook group and in YouTube comments every day. If you can help write articles that address these common questions, you will be helping a lot of people! 🤠

Please read the following before editing:
*[[Help:How to contribute]] if you are unsure how to edit wiki articles
*[[EM:Policies]] for important information on the way articles are written here

If you have any questions about editing the wiki, you will likely get a fast response from the [{{discord}} Discord server]. If there are any suggestions for improvement, [[User talk:NottNott|please contact NottNott]]. Happy editing! 🧾

-- [[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 11:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hi Phil, thanks for joining in. [[User:Sam.Watson|Sam.Watson]] ([[User talk:Sam.Watson|talk]]) 18:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Sam.Watson}} Hey man, always a pleasure. [[User:Phil3741|Phil3741]] ([[User talk:Phil3741|talk]]) 20:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== Have some admin ==

You're an admin now - feel free to delete the entire wiki! -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|NottNott}} UNLIMITED POWER!1! Thanks, I'm gonna take it slowly as I still have to figure out the inner workings of this machine [[User:Phil3741|Phil3741]] ([[User talk:Phil3741|talk]]) 20:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
::Technically not UNLIMITED POWER. But most power!! Most importantly you can edit protected articles and block potential vandals in the future.

::Check out [[EM:User access groups]] if you want to request more UNLIMITED POWER in the future if you need it. We haven't had any vandalism yet, but the second the wiki goes public expect to be blocking some trolls {{grin}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:53, 20 June 2020 (UTC)