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User: /* Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt */

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Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt

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	*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free		*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free
	*There are plenty of [[Clinical_Studies\|clinical studies (list)]] that indicate the axial length of the eyeball is not fixed and can change over time. We didn't write these studies, we're just applying their lessons.		*There are plenty of [[Clinical_Studies\|clinical studies (list)]] that indicate the axial length of the eyeball is not fixed and can change over time. We didn't write these studies, we're just applying their lessons.
	*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}		*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us! Also, most of the time, it's invite-only, so you can't even buy it anyway.)}}

	We encourage you to be open-minded and consider all of the options available to you, instead of just ours. We're all about engaging those critical thinking skills. If you can understand vision biology yourself, then you are in a better position to decide what is and isn't likely to fix your eyesight.		We encourage you to be open-minded and consider all of the options available to you, instead of just ours. We're all about engaging those critical thinking skills. If you can understand vision biology yourself, then you are in a better position to decide what is and isn't likely to fix your eyesight.

NottNott: /* Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt */

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Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt

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	*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]		*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]
	*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free		*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free
			*There are plenty of [[Clinical_Studies\|clinical studies (list)]] that indicate the axial length of the eyeball is not fixed and can change over time. We didn't write these studies, we're just applying their lessons.
	*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}		*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}

NottNott: /* Obviously, you should doubt this */

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Obviously, you should doubt this

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	==Obviously, you should doubt this==		==Obviously, you should doubt this==
	{{quote\|This is total rubbish! If myopia was reversible everyone would know by now! This guy is trying to sell me something!\|You, reading literally anything here for the first time}}		{{quote\|This is total rubbish! If myopia was reversible everyone would know by now! This guy is trying to sell me something!\|You, reading literally anything here for the first time}}
	When reading [[EndMyopia]] content for the first time, if you seriously didn't doubt this stuff for the first time that would be pretty impressive. ~~It's okay because you'll improve your eyes all the same, but mostly~~ everybody has the same initial experience when they find the site for the first time. "It's all a scam." {{smaller\|"I mean, it probably is, right?"}}		When reading [[EndMyopia]] content for the first time, if you seriously didn't doubt this stuff for the first time that would be pretty impressive. Mostly everybody has the same initial experience when they find the site for the first time. "It's all a scam." {{smaller\|"I mean, it probably is, right?"}}

	There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.		There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.

	==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==		==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==
	Here's a few reasons you should, maybe reconsider whether any of this stuff is real instead of dismissing it without thinking:		Here's a few reasons you should, maybe reconsider whether any of this stuff is real instead of dismissing it without thinking:

NottNott: /* Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt */

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Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt

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	There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.		There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.
	==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==		==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==
	Here's a few reasons you should, maybe reconsider ~~if EndMyopia works~~ instead of dismissing it without thinking:		Here's a few reasons you should, maybe reconsider whether any of this stuff is real instead of dismissing it without thinking:
	*[https://endmyopia.org/success/ We have plenty of glowing reviews]		*[https://endmyopia.org/success/ We have plenty of glowing reviews]
	*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]		*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]
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	We encourage you to be open-minded and consider all of the options available to you, instead of just ours. We're all about engaging those critical thinking skills. If you can understand vision biology yourself, then you are in a better position to decide what is and isn't likely to fix your eyesight.		We encourage you to be open-minded and consider all of the options available to you, instead of just ours. We're all about engaging those critical thinking skills. If you can understand vision biology yourself, then you are in a better position to decide what is and isn't likely to fix your eyesight.

	==See also==		==See also==
	*[[Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism]]		*[[Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism]]

NottNott at 22:32, 14 June 2020

2020-06-14T22:32:57Z

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	[[File:Myopia jake down.png\|right\|thumb\|Probably untrustworthy...?]]		[[File:Myopia jake down.png\|right\|thumb\|Probably untrustworthy...?]]
	This guide will show you how to doubt EndMyopia, when you're coming across it for the first time. Wait what?		This guide will show you how to doubt EndMyopia, when you're coming across it for the first time. ''Wait what?''
	{{clear}}		{{clear}}
	==Obviously, you should doubt this==		==Obviously, you should doubt this==

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	There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.		There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil\|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.
			==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==
			Here's a few reasons you should, maybe reconsider if EndMyopia works instead of dismissing it without thinking:
			*[https://endmyopia.org/success/ We have plenty of glowing reviews]
			*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]
			*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free
			*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}

			We encourage you to be open-minded and consider all of the options available to you, instead of just ours. We're all about engaging those critical thinking skills. If you can understand vision biology yourself, then you are in a better position to decide what is and isn't likely to fix your eyesight.
	==See also==		==See also==
	*[[Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism]]		*[[Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism]]

NottNott at 22:14, 14 June 2020

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 There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.
 ==See also==
 *[[Frequently Asked Questions/Skepticism]]

NottNott: NottNott moved page Blind belief to Guide:How to doubt EndMyopia

2020-06-14T22:11:27Z

NottNott moved page Blind belief to Guide:How to doubt EndMyopia

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NottNott at 22:10, 14 June 2020

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-'''Blind Belief''', is accepting certain propositions to be true, without a fully detailed look at the reasons at why the propositions would be true. Sometimes when we want something to be true badly enough, such as the [[Unicorn Farming|many advertised cures]] for [[myopia]] on the internet, we'll believe it without fully considering the evidence before us. When reading [[EndMyopia]] content, we want you to be screaming in your head, "This is probably a scam!" Because it probably is, anyway.
+[[File:Myopia jake down.png|right|thumb|Probably untrustworthy...?]]
-==Causality==
+There are, of course plenty of [[Wikipedia:snake oil|snake oil]] salespeople on the internet. At a quick glance, EndMyopia shouldn't seem all that different.
-How does the [[Bates method]] address the underlying biology in reversing the [[axial elongation]] of the eye, for instance? There are [[clinical studies]] that just as [[hyperopic defocus]] can increase axial length and therefore myopia, the [[myopic defocus]] used by EndMyopia can decrease axial length. The Bates method relies on eye exercises such as [[palming]], [[swinging]] and other things which don't appear to provide a known stimulus that reduces the length of the eyeball.
+==Reasons to reconsider extreme doubt==
 ==References==

Divenal: Slight rewording - defocus isn't the only possible stimulus so dial back slightly . Does it seem reasonable ?

2020-06-11T08:31:21Z

Slight rewording - defocus isn't the only possible stimulus so dial back slightly . Does it seem reasonable ?

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	==Causality==		==Causality==
	How does the [[Bates method]] address the underlying biology in reversing the [[axial ~~length~~]] of the eye, for instance? There are ~~a lot of~~ [[clinical studies]] that just as [[hyperopic defocus]] ~~will~~ increase axial length and therefore myopia, [[myopic defocus]] ~~will~~ decrease axial length. The Bates method relies on eye exercises such as [[palming]], [[swinging]] and other things ~~doesn~~'t ~~induce myopic defocus, which is the~~ stimulus~~, according to clinical studies,~~ that reduces the length of the eyeball.		How does the [[Bates method]] address the underlying biology in reversing the [[axial elongation]] of the eye, for instance? There are [[clinical studies]] that just as [[hyperopic defocus]] can increase axial length and therefore myopia, the [[myopic defocus]] used by EndMyopia can decrease axial length. The Bates method relies on eye exercises such as [[palming]], [[swinging]] and other things which don't appear to provide a known stimulus that reduces the length of the eyeball.

	==References==		==References==

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	*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]		*[[Shortsighted the podcast\|We have a podcast full of <s>paid actors</s> conversations with EndMyopians all over the world]]
	*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free		*[[EndMyopia:EDIT\|This entire wiki was built]] from the ground up by an army of volunteers, for free
			*There are plenty of [[Clinical_Studies\|clinical studies (list)]] that indicate the axial length of the eyeball is not fixed and can change over time. We didn't write these studies, we're just applying their lessons.
	*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}		*We don't shove paid courses in your face. You can buy a [[BackTo20/20]] membership, but we're clear this isn't necessary to reverse your myopia. {{smaller\|([[Jakey]] is going broke though, support us)}}