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		<title>NottNott at 16:22, 11 June 2020</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don't know how universal the second sense of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there's a section labeled &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; which includes &amp;quot;Wearing Rx&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Manifest Refraction&amp;quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &amp;quot;Trial Frame Refraction&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Subjective Refraction&amp;quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn't come up as much with that search term, but it's exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don't know how universal the second sense of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there's a section labeled &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; which includes &amp;quot;Wearing Rx&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Manifest Refraction&amp;quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &amp;quot;Trial Frame Refraction&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Subjective Refraction&amp;quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn't come up as much with that search term, but it's exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Dlskidmore: how common is the second usage of &quot;Refraction&quot;?</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T15:48:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;how common is the second usage of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don't know how universal the second sense of &quot;Refraction&quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there's a section labeled &quot;Refraction&quot; which includes &quot;Wearing Rx&quot; and &quot;Manifest Refraction&quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &quot;Trial Frame Refraction&quot; or &quot;Subjective Refraction&quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn't come up as much with that search term, but it's exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Divenal at 08:07, 11 June 2020</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T08:07:13Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Dlskidmore: Created page with &quot;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  ~~~~&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T02:22:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  ~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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