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		<title>NottNott at 16:22, 11 June 2020</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don&amp;#039;t know how universal the second sense of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there&amp;#039;s a section labeled &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; which includes &amp;quot;Wearing Rx&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Manifest Refraction&amp;quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &amp;quot;Trial Frame Refraction&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Subjective Refraction&amp;quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn&amp;#039;t come up as much with that search term, but it&amp;#039;s exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don&amp;#039;t know how universal the second sense of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there&amp;#039;s a section labeled &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot; which includes &amp;quot;Wearing Rx&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Manifest Refraction&amp;quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &amp;quot;Trial Frame Refraction&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Subjective Refraction&amp;quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn&amp;#039;t come up as much with that search term, but it&amp;#039;s exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Dlskidmore: how common is the second usage of &quot;Refraction&quot;?</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T15:48:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;how common is the second usage of &amp;quot;Refraction&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:{{re|Divenal}} Existing references would point to the disambiguation page I think, unless those exist in a special namespace.  It would be good to go back and change the links to the disambiguation page to be the specific ones.  I don&#039;t know how universal the second sense of &quot;Refraction&quot; is used, but in my visit notes from a prior OD, there&#039;s a section labeled &quot;Refraction&quot; which includes &quot;Wearing Rx&quot; and &quot;Manifest Refraction&quot;, the process of using a trial frame is called &quot;Trial Frame Refraction&quot; or &quot;Subjective Refraction&quot; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_refraction  Phoropter  doesn&#039;t come up as much with that search term, but it&#039;s exactly the same process with the lenses built into the trial frame, and the phoropter is sometimes called a refractor.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoropter&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Divenal at 08:07, 11 June 2020</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T08:07:13Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  [[User:Dlskidmore|Dlskidmore]] ([[User talk:Dlskidmore|talk]]) 02:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:{{re|Dlskidmore}}Possibly, though I had never heard of it in the refractrometry sense. I think most (all ?) internal references would be to the light-bending sense, so disambiguation presumaly means each reference has to be updated to go to the specific one.  Would we end with any (direct) references to the other one ? [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 08:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Dlskidmore: Created page with &quot;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  ~~~~&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2020-06-11T02:22:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Should this be written as a disambiguation page? With those two headers broken out into their own pages?  ~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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