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	The wiki is entirely subject to change based on community input. That is how a wiki is built. Literally anything about the wiki can and should be up for discussion. With that said, here's my exception which I'm [[EM:IAR\|ignoring rules on]]:
	~~==[[mw:Flow\|'Structured talk pages']]💩==~~
	{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}
	~~I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.~~
	~~====Structured talk pages look horrible====~~
	It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a {{grey\|horrible grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put into designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.

	~~====Making the wiki future-proof====~~
	It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work.

	Since it's clear structured talk pages are going the way of the dinosaurs (extinct), it's clear that even if we did put it in, eventually the extension will become unmaintained and we'll be forced to do some horrible transfer from that system over to regular talk pages. Just, no. I'm horrible, and y'all gotta learn how to use old fashioned talk pages.{{smiley}}

	~~====Conclusion with a strong opinion====~~
	~~Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''very easy to learn!'']] You can see examples of the syntax of talk pages on every talk page you visit.~~

	~~If you genuinely cannot learn to use talk pages, perhaps you're genuinely not the calibre we need here at the wiki. ''Boom! Yeah! I went there!'' 😎~~

	~~-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>~~

	~~[[Category:Userspace essays]]~~
	~~[[Category:Policy essays]]~~

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NottNott: +Category:Userspace essays; +Category:Policy essays using HotCat

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	-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>		-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>

			[[Category:Userspace essays]]
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2020-06-05T16:40:37Z

Structured talk pages look horrible

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	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.
	====Structured talk pages look horrible====		====Structured talk pages look horrible====
	It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a {{grey\|horrible grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put ~~in to~~ designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.		It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a {{grey\|horrible grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put into designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.

	====Making the wiki future-proof====		====Making the wiki future-proof====

NottNott: /* Structured talk pages look horrible */

2020-06-05T16:40:03Z

Structured talk pages look horrible

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	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.
	====Structured talk pages look horrible====		====Structured talk pages look horrible====
	It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a ~~horrible~~ {{grey\|grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.		It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a {{grey\|horrible grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.

	====Making the wiki future-proof====		====Making the wiki future-proof====
	It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work.		It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work.

NottNott: /* Conclusion with a strong opinion */ ew, american spellings on my hate speech article against structured talk pages

2020-06-05T16:39:22Z

Conclusion with a strong opinion: ew, american spellings on my hate speech article against structured talk pages

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	Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''very easy to learn!'']] You can see examples of the syntax of talk pages on every talk page you visit.		Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''very easy to learn!'']] You can see examples of the syntax of talk pages on every talk page you visit.

	If you genuinely cannot learn to use talk pages, perhaps you're genuinely not the ~~caliber~~ we need here at the wiki. ''Boom! Yeah! I went there!'' 😎		If you genuinely cannot learn to use talk pages, perhaps you're genuinely not the calibre we need here at the wiki. ''Boom! Yeah! I went there!'' 😎

	-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>		-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>

NottNott at 16:38, 5 June 2020

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	{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}		{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}
	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.
			====Structured talk pages look horrible====
			It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a horrible {{grey\|grey colour}}. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.
			====Making the wiki future-proof====
			It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work.

	~~It makes~~ talk pages ~~look terrible to read and hard to follow~~, ~~and gives everything a horrible grey colour. It~~ '~~''removes''' the artistic flair editors~~ put in ~~to designing their lovely signatures~~, and ~~all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options~~ we ~~have access~~ to ~~when writing messages~~ to ~~each other~~. ~~It destroys the soul of the wiki~~. ~~Nearly~~ all ~~different language Wikipedia projects have refused~~ to ~~fully implement this feature, for these reasons~~.		Since it's clear structured talk pages are going the way of the dinosaurs (extinct), it's clear that even if we did put it in, eventually the extension will become unmaintained and we'll be forced to do some horrible transfer from that system over to regular talk pages. Just, no. I'm horrible, and y'all gotta learn how to use old fashioned talk pages.{{smiley}}

	It is ~~clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make~~ talk pages ~~more accessible through~~ the ~~current infrastructure~~ of ~~a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how~~ talk pages ~~work. Because of this and the concerns above, I'm refusing to implement this feature and will actively resist any calls to put it in~~. ~~{{grin}}~~		====Conclusion with a strong opinion====
			Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''very easy to learn!'']] You can see examples of the syntax of talk pages on every talk page you visit.

	~~Using~~ talk pages ~~is [[EM:talk pages\|~~''~~so easy to learn as well~~!'']]		If you genuinely cannot learn to use talk pages, perhaps you're genuinely not the caliber we need here at the wiki. ''Boom! Yeah! I went there!'' 😎

	-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>		-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>

NottNott at 12:07, 27 May 2020

2020-05-27T12:07:31Z

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	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.

	It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a horrible grey colour. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki.		It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a horrible grey colour. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki. Nearly all different language Wikipedia projects have refused to fully implement this feature, for these reasons.

	It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work. Because of this and the concerns above, I'm refusing to implement this feature and will actively resist any calls to put it in. {{grin}}		It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work. Because of this and the concerns above, I'm refusing to implement this feature and will actively resist any calls to put it in. {{grin}}

NottNott at 12:04, 27 May 2020

2020-05-27T12:04:47Z

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	The wiki is entirely subject to change based on community input. That is how a wiki is built. Literally anything about the wiki can and should be up for discussion. With that said, here's my exception which I'm [[EM:IAR\|ignoring rules on]]:		The wiki is entirely subject to change based on community input. That is how a wiki is built. Literally anything about the wiki can and should be up for discussion. With that said, here's my exception which I'm [[EM:IAR\|ignoring rules on]]:
	==[[mw:Flow\|'Structured talk pages' ~~or Flow as it's called~~]]==		==[[mw:Flow\|'Structured talk pages']]💩==
	{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}		{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}
	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.

NottNott at 12:03, 27 May 2020

2020-05-27T12:03:04Z

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	The wiki is entirely subject to change based on community input. That is how a wiki is built. ~~There is one~~ exception:		The wiki is entirely subject to change based on community input. That is how a wiki is built. Literally anything about the wiki can and should be up for discussion. With that said, here's my exception which I'm [[EM:IAR\|ignoring rules on]]:
	==[[mw:Flow\|'Structured talk pages' or Flow as it's called]]==		==[[mw:Flow\|'Structured talk pages' or Flow as it's called]]==
	{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}		{{quote\|Based on these findings, we propose that wikitext talk pages should be improved, and not replaced.\|[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_1_report Phase 1 report on the Talk Pages consultation]}}
	I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.		I will never implement structured talk pages, and will oppose all calls to introduce it.

	It makes talk pages look terrible to read and follow and gives everything a horrible grey colour. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It destroys the soul of the wiki.		It makes talk pages look terrible to read and hard to follow, and gives everything a horrible grey colour. It '''removes''' the artistic flair editors put in to designing their lovely signatures, and all the colour that comes along with it. It removes all of the wonderful formatting options we have access to when writing messages to each other. It destroys the soul of the wiki.

	It's clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work. Because of this and the concerns above, I'm refusing to implement this feature and will resist any calls to put it in {{grin}}		It is clear the Wikimedia Foundation and MediaWiki developers are working on a way to make talk pages more accessible through the current infrastructure of a normal page, as opposed to a complete rewrite of how talk pages work. Because of this and the concerns above, I'm refusing to implement this feature and will actively resist any calls to put it in. {{grin}}

	Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''so easy to learn as well!'']]		Using talk pages is [[EM:talk pages\|''so easy to learn as well!'']]

	-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>		-[[User:NottNott\|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott\|talk]])</small>