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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for all the work you've done for such a young wiki :) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 12:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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== On spamming the wiki with loads of templates ==

Heya, I'm currently trying to get [[Wikipedia:WP:ProveIt|WP:ProveIt]] to work identically there as it would do here, for the most user friendly citing experience possible. This means I'm mass importing thousands of pages, and probably most of them are useless. It's okay though, nobody has to see them and tidying up won't be necessary. {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

:{{Re|NottNott}} Looks like ProveIt just uses [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ProveIt a few citation templates]. Why not just import those? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 17:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

::(Huh, looks like the notification system is bust. It was working earlier, I literally tested it!)

::It's not quite that simple although I wish it was. We also have to import the TemplateData from the documentation pages with every template because ProveIt relies on the TemplateData to generate the fields for citing. [[Template:Cite web]] has no TemplateData on it, but [[Template:Cite web/doc]] has detailed TemplateData on it. I'm not sure if ProveIt is looking to the template instead of the documentation for the TemplateData, and something funky needs to be done with transclusion, or whether ProveIt is just taking its time to update its information. -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 17:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

:::I see, so the shotgun approach is necessary. Well, I'm a bit of a deletionist, so I might be tempted to delete some useless things when you've got it working! [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 18:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

::::I wouldn't bother. This entire wiki takes up less than 500mb at the moment, and we're not really capped on pages we can have. You can be a deletionist as long as you promise it won't break anything {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 18:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Testing the re template again ==

I have no clue why it's suddenly started working again. Can you try using the template? You need to sign with your signature to make it work (you'd do that anyway) -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 20:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

:{{Re|NottNott}} Testing. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 22:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

::Okay that works! Thanks a lot :D -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

== Articles category ==

Heya, I love the work you've done on categorising content so far, really handy for those images. I'm wondering if the Articles category is strictly necessary, as anything in mainspace could fall under this category - one could find this out by finding looking for all pages in mainspace and hiding redirects instead. Let me know what you think {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 19:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

:{{Re|NottNott}} Yeah, it may appear redundant at first. But take a closer look... Category:Articles is a super-category meant to contain sub-categories. Look at [[:Category:Articles]] and see that there are already several sub-categories. I'd probably further categorize everything as groups like "medical conditions", "techniques", "core EndMyopia concepts", etc. Note that categorizing pages causes a convenient category link to appear at the bottom of wiki pages, whereas the [[Special:AllPages]] that you are referring to is not part of site navigation. In addition, Special:AllPages is less friendly to use due to not having the big letters or sub-categories. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

::Awesome explainer! I have not done any categorising work on a wiki before so I would not know. Thanks {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|NottNott]] ([[User talk:NottNott|talk]]) 22:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

::Hi Heedy! I brought the same issue up yesterday with NottNott here. Perhaps you could explain the benefit to you. Is it site navigation as you imply above, is there something more? [[User:Sam.Watson|Sam.Watson]] ([[User talk:Sam.Watson|talk]]) 11:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Re|Sam.Watson}} Yes, categories make it easier to find related articles and they are part of site navigation (just look at the bottom of the article for the category navigation bar). Also, there is no reason to ''not'' categorize things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 14:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==

Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.

[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.

Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.

Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

== astigmatism ==

Re your change to [[Astigmatism]] - I think the blog does say that you shouldn't reduce both spherical and cylinder at the same time. (But I'm new here, so I may be wrong.) [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 20:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{Re|Divenal}} Yeah, I think I remember reading that on the blog too. I reverted my edit. Thanks! [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 20:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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+== On spamming the wiki with loads of templates ==
+Heya, I'm currently trying to get [[Wikipedia:WP:ProveIt|WP:ProveIt]] to work identically there as it would do here, for the most user friendly citing experience possible. This means I'm mass importing thousands of pages, and probably most of them are useless. It's okay though, nobody has to see them and tidying up won't be necessary. {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 17:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+:{{Re|NottNott}} Looks like ProveIt just uses [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ProveIt a few citation templates]. Why not just import those? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 17:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+::(Huh, looks like the notification system is bust. It was working earlier, I literally tested it!)
+::It's not quite that simple although I wish it was. We also have to import the TemplateData from the documentation pages with every template because ProveIt relies on the TemplateData to generate the fields for citing. [[Template:Cite web]] has no TemplateData on it, but [[Template:Cite web/doc]] has detailed TemplateData on it. I'm not sure if ProveIt is looking to the template instead of the documentation for the TemplateData, and something funky needs to be done with transclusion, or whether ProveIt is just taking its time to update its information. -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 17:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+:::I see, so the shotgun approach is necessary. Well, I'm a bit of a deletionist, so I might be tempted to delete some useless things when you've got it working! [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 18:15, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+::::I wouldn't bother. This entire wiki takes up less than 500mb at the moment, and we're not really capped on pages we can have. You can be a deletionist as long as you promise it won't break anything {{wink}} -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 18:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+== Testing the re template again ==
+I have no clue why it's suddenly started working again. Can you try using the template? You need to sign with your signature to make it work (you'd do that anyway) -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 20:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+:{{Re|NottNott}} Testing. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 22:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+::Okay that works! Thanks a lot :D -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 22:49, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
+== Articles category ==
+Heya, I love the work you've done on categorising content so far, really handy for those images. I'm wondering if the Articles category is strictly necessary, as anything in mainspace could fall under this category - one could find this out by finding looking for all pages in mainspace and hiding redirects instead. Let me know what you think {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 19:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
+:{{Re|NottNott}} Yeah, it may appear redundant at first. But take a closer look... Category:Articles is a super-category meant to contain sub-categories. Look at [[:Category:Articles]] and see that there are already several sub-categories. I'd probably further categorize everything as groups like "medical conditions", "techniques", "core EndMyopia concepts", etc. Note that categorizing pages causes a convenient category link to appear at the bottom of wiki pages, whereas the [[Special:AllPages]] that you are referring to is not part of site navigation. In addition, Special:AllPages is less friendly to use due to not having the big letters or sub-categories. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
+::Awesome explainer! I have not done any categorising work on a wiki before so I would not know. Thanks {{smiley}} -[[User:NottNott|<span style="color:#e67e22">NottNott</span>]] <small>([[User talk:NottNott|talk]])</small> 22:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
+::Hi Heedy! I brought the same issue up yesterday with NottNott here. Perhaps you could explain the benefit to you. Is it site navigation as you imply above, is there something more? [[User:Sam.Watson|Sam.Watson]] ([[User talk:Sam.Watson|talk]]) 11:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
+:::{{Re|Sam.Watson}} Yes, categories make it easier to find related articles and they are part of site navigation (just look at the bottom of the article for the category navigation bar). Also, there is no reason to ''not'' categorize things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 14:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
+== EndMyopia Wiki: Launched! ==
+Thanks to everyone who has done a terrific job on getting the wiki up to scratch. Definitely a team effort, and I think it's paid off quite nicely. Always more to be done, but the basics look pretty taken care of. Wiki's looking good. We're on the front page of the main site, it's been promoted in Facebook and there should be a video coming out at some point.
+[[EM:admin guide|Admin specific]]: the next two to four weeks will be a good barometer of how much [[EM:vandalism|vandalism]] can be expected over time, and whether things need to be changed or not. I'm heavily in favour of keeping it 'create an account, make an edit', but if need be there can be additional restrictions.
+Try to check in on [[Special:RecentChanges]] every once in a while to see if anything unsavoury is happening. I might be overestimating the amount of vandalism we'll get, we must wait and see. Don't be afraid to [[Special:Block|block users]] if necessary.
+Cheers! {{User:NottNott/sig}} 08:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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+== astigmatism ==
+Re your change to [[Astigmatism]] - I think the blog does say that you shouldn't reduce both spherical and cylinder at the same time. (But I'm new here, so I may be wrong.) [[User:Divenal|Divenal]] ([[User talk:Divenal|talk]]) 20:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
+:{{Re|Divenal}} Yeah, I think I remember reading that on the blog too. I reverted my edit. Thanks! [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 20:16, 22 June 2020 (UTC)