User talk:NottNott

JUST MAKE THE EDIT

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Hello there, this is an example message. -NottNott 09:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I've not used the talk feature before, just looks like a normal page with a special category -Denise Skidmore

getting the hang of proper talk signature etiquette Dlskidmore (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

reddit

Wouldn't 'Reddit' be cleaner then 'reddit'. Sam.Watson (talk) 21:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Done.

Ended up trying to import bazillions of non-functioning Wikipedia templates like {{done}} while I was at it. Probably going to have a lot of cleaning up to do later on, I'm making such a mess. -NottNott (talk) 22:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Sam.Watson (talk) 22:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh yeah, whatever can invoke statements like #if in templates also doesn't work. Sigh. -NottNott (talk) 22:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Needs an extension for that. -NottNott (talk) 22:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Template:Navbox

Can you add getting the navbox working to your list. Articles become more co-ordinated and sensible when there is a method of overview and navigation. Sam.Watson (talk) 17:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Needs Scribunto extension - can do this when I have access to the backend. 100% a priority when I can get around to this. -NottNott (talk) 18:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Can you add mw:Extension:Cite? It would allow us to cite sources. Heddy (talk) 22:09, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you have access to the thread on the forum where I discuss the backend and configuration a little more. I'm currently waiting to get backend access to configure the MediaWiki install - the wiki is hosted on Jake's file server and I don't have FTP access at the moment. As you can imagine, there are plenty of extensions and configurations I'd like to do, and Cite will definitely be added.

By the way Template:VisionStats is awesome. What experience do you have on other wikis? :) -NottNott (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I saw the thread but didn't read it thoroughly, so I thought you had full access!

I have been editing Wikipedia and various video game wikis for about 5 years. I can make that template even better if you add ParserFunctions! Heddy (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

No worries, it's a doozy in that thread. Thanks for the extension suggestions, you're welcome to compile a list of extensions you want installed on the ToDo list and I'll get through it. Also, you've passed the extensive RFA process we have here, have the mop :) -NottNott (talk) 22:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I know I'll be a great janitor! Heddy (talk) 22:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

ProveIt

Not sure if any of this is fixable, but ProveIt has a few foibles.

• It sometimes reverses the first and last name of the author. That one I doubt is fixable, because not everyone will use the same text formatting everywhere, so it would have to know as much as a human about names. (Although it might be able to learn more about common first and last names in other cultures than I know myself if it could do it at all.)
• The Journal template doesn't like partial dates like 2010 Dec. It wants the day, but the day isn't always known, many of the articles cite only a year or month and year. That might be fixable in the template? Dlskidmore (talk) 02:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Dlskidmore: If it's last name and then first name, to my knowledge that order of words is sometimes a convention when citing clinical studies. Some use first and last, some last and first. Whatever convention being used is identical to the one Wikipedia uses, so if it's good for them hopefully it's good for us.

If you enter in, for example, December 2010 into the source date box, it worked out good for me. Check out User:NottNott/sandbox for an example of how I have done this below, at the bottom of the page. -NottNott (talk) 08:08, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Test

@NottNott: Hello? -NottNott (talk) 11:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC) @NottSock: Howdy -NottNott (talk) 12:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@NottSock: test -NottNott (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC) @NottNott: test NottSock (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Copy wrong

I won't use disney, they have a history of being agressive about protecting there content. Jake doesn't require the hassle and neither do you, Sam.Watson (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: Take it down and delete the file then, I would. -NottNott (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Nott Nott Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For amazing work both behind the scenes and on the Wiki. Relax, take a break and do your exam work. 😉 Sam.Watson (talk) 20:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: People obsess about exam work far too much! There's myopia to fix!! Thanks for the barnstar -NottNott (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Sidebar.

'Not medical advice', you mean 'No medical advice'? Sam.Watson (talk) 19:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: MediaWiki:Sidebar -NottNott (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done I'm a ninja -NottNott (talk) 20:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Experimenting

I see you're having fun! Sam.Watson (talk) 17:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: If you can tell me how 500 Internal Server Errors on specific pages (like this talk page) are fun, then I'll be shocked. Fixed now!!

Caching is enabled across the wiki, PARTICULARLY for anonymous users. Open up incognito and start clicking on things. This uses Varnish cache, which gives anonymous users a jet aeroplane to get around. Doesn't work for logged in wiki users, but there is another cache that I've enabled for us. I can't see it getting faster than that. -NottNott (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and thumbnail generation bug was seemingly fictional. It was due to my browser cache, and me thinking I could clear it with Ctrl+R instaed of Ctrl+F5. Whoops. We can overwrite old files!!!! -NottNott (talk) 17:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Nice. Insights 90 to 99% https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/ with https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.endmyopia.org%2Fwiki%2FEndMyopia_Wiki

In another test image can be slow. https://www.webpagetest.org/result/200529_W2_503ae97c52f243f26dcc8989ed5413b6/3/details/#waterfall_view_step1

Sam.Watson (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: This will be a lot faster when more users roam around the wiki and generate more cached files through Varnish :) -NottNott (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Compressed adorable kitten

What's up here? https://wiki.endmyopia.org/wiki/File:Adorable_cute_kitten_tapping_on_Macbook.gif Sam.Watson (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: The fun will never end! -NottNott (talk) 18:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: Should be fixed. -NottNott (talk) 18:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, fixed now. Was that something you did, or took a while? I noticed it updated the front page image almost immediately, so that was good. Sam.Watson (talk) 18:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: That one's to do with ImageMagick. Which is a false prophet to fixing image related problems by the looks of things. I disabled it, and the problem vanished. And the image thumbnailing bug was a lie, just like the cake from Portal. -NottNott (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

typos

there were two small typos in your welcome message - receive, and not recieve. If this is a standard welcoming text I suggest you correct this. Hannie. I have to figure out how to get the tilde sign onto my keyboard.

@Hannie:  Done

There should be a button in the bar with a signature looking icon if you're using the blue interface to sign off, or if you're using wikEd (grey), there will be a little button of a tilde. Either of these will give you the four tildes you need :) -NottNott (talk) 08:02, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, found it.Hannie (talk) 08:09, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hannie: Two colons to reply to a single colon. -NottNott (talk) 08:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@NottNott: I will get the hang of this sooner or later.Hannie (talk) 08:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hannie: You will -NottNott (talk) 08:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Embed?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tVjcYpLW59I" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> Sam.Watson (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Categories

Do we require categories? Such as Category:Articles, seems that by not having it would save on maintenance work. Sam.Watson (talk) 23:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Sam.Watson: See User_talk:Heddy#Articles_category. What do you think? -NottNott (talk) 07:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

hyperopic defocus

@NottNott:I was just about to ask (somewhere - not sure where yet...) whether hyperopic defocus should just be made an alias of hyperopic blur, but you seem to have removed my assertion that they are the same. A dictionary definition of defocus is "The blurring of a visual image" so I had assumed the defocus was simply the more technical term Divenal (talk) 12:01, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Divenal: Not quite sure what to do here either. Jake always uses the term hyperopic defocus, and if I'm not mistaken the studies refer to that term as well. I understand that a blurry image is created as a result. I think Hyperopic defocus (hyperopic blur) would probably okay - most people who think of blur would be thinking of myopic blur, so using just blur wouldn't be accurate here. -NottNott (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@NottNott: I had added 'blur' not only to give the alias to the term defocus, but also to provide the hyperlink to the blur page, which also discusses the topic. (But of course that could also be done as a 'see also'). And then I noticed that hyperopic blur redirected to that section of the blur page, when it could just as easily direct to the Hyperopic defocus page. Divenal (talk)

Duplication

I seem to have a bit of an obsession about avoiding duplication - prefer to link to a definition than repeat it. OTOH it would be annoying to have to keep clicking links to jump about finding definitions, especially in explainers. I think a wiki I used to use a long time ago (twiki) had a mechanism for inlinling the text from one document into another. So that would allow the text of Overprescription to be inlined into Explainer:Why_early_improvements_are_so_fast rather than (more or less) duplicating the text. Or inline the text of Axial elongation rather than having to jump to it. Not sure if that feature is available here. Divenal (talk) 12:27, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Divenal: That would be possible, for instance we could have definitions to things such as Definition:Overprescription or something, then you could insert that definition into articles with {{Definition:Overprescription}}

However, strongly recommending against it in this case. I don't think we'll be duplicating information too many times, and I think the issue will sort itself as the wiki grows older and gets more contributors. It becomes harder to directly edit pages if we transclude definitions into the page instead of just having it on the page. Also, it leads to issues as to how much to transclude into any given page - it gets pretty complicated fast. I think clicking links is part and parcel of using a resource like this, the wiki is fairly quick (hopefully even quicker soon) and I think if someone can't be bothered to click a few more links they're not bothered enough to fix their eyesight -NottNott (talk) 12:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)