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====Does BackTo20/20 Work With Presbyopia?====
==BackTo20/20==
====Blog and Wiki vs. BackTo20/20 – Is It Worth Paying?====
====Where Can I Buy BackTo20/20 Access?====
====Where Can I Buy BackTo20/20 Access?====
{{bigger|[https://courses.endmyopia.org/mentored-courses/ See the fancy BackTo20/20 sales pages here.]}}
{{jake says|If you ended up on this question, you probably already noticed there’s no ‘buy’ link anywhere on the site.
You may have also noticed that I often repeat that '''everything you need to fix your eyes yourself, is entirely freely available in the blog''' (and the e-mail series).  That’s no ploy.  Yes, everything is all in the blog, see the how-to guides and reader stories, our Facebook group is also full of reader and student stories (well worth joining there as well, also free of course).
But anyway.  You want to buy BackTo20/20?
Currently there is no guaranteed way to do so.  The reason for all this hiding of BackTo20/20 from the general and casual reader public is that I’m still providing personal support, unlimited for all students there, via the support forum.  Since I try to limit my daily time to around three hours for endmyopia, I only have limited time to do personal support. 
And that’s why, no publicly available sales of BackTo20/20 (for now).
There are '''10 invites''' that go out every month, to those who are most likely to benefit from the program.  How do I know who should get them?  That’s based on how you use this site, what you read, how closely you’re paying attention.  Most likely if 1) you spent enough time researching here and 2) I have invites, you probably will get one.
I’m not very interested in heavily commercializing this resource for now.  BackTo20/20 gives me a way to refine a structured approach, it’s also '''the basis of our current study for natural myopia control (the largest ever conducted)''', collecting participant data all along the way.   
''(The other, shorter answer is that you can subscribe to the e-mail course, do it in its entirety, you’ll get an invite at the end of it, if any are available – at that point you’ll already know if the DIY, free way is enough for you, or if you want a structured, Jake-supported approach instead)''}}
====Can I Get A Discount?====
====Can I Get A Discount?====
{{Jake says|Valid question. 
Short answer:  '''I’m perhaps not the guide the “discount please” individual is looking for.'''
Long answer:  For those looking for “cheap”, or are “just browsing”, “or maybe, sometime”, and definitely the “I’d surely do it if only it was x-dollars”, and “I’m poor, give me a discount” crowd .. there are lots of alternate options, ranging from entirely free to appropriately inexpensive:
There are some worthwhile '''books on Amazon.com''' (check for the well reviewed ones). 
A local '''behavioral optometrist'''.  Always worth considering.
Sites and '''forums'''.  ([https://gettingstronger.org/ gettingstronger] appears to have decent conversations)
I’m not specifically endorsing any of them.  But there are valid ideas out there.
I’ve spent quite some time working with the “discount, please” crowd, and I’ve learned from them.  It’s actually almost never about the money.  '''It’s a mindset making excuses.'''  There are plenty of cheap books, some of them with good reviews. 
Similarly, from the Q&A:  [https://endmyopia.org/therapistqa/question/programs-cost Oh, I wish I would have bought it when...]}}
====Why do I have to be 25 to sign up to BackTo20/20?====
{{jake says|Blame your darling peers for this rule.
One: I had massive ongoing issues with the younger participants using parents (or other third parties) credit cards, and then me getting in trouble with parents and banks.  Not worth the headache and since I only do a few invites each month, with way more people wanting in than I have space, I eventually just said ‘no more’ with the ignoring payment rules.
Two: The under 25 participants over time showed a highly disproportionate amount of support request.  Where the average participant may have a question or to any given week, younglings were far, far more likely to have dozens or more questions in the same time.  Not closely reading the sessions, then trying to get me to explain everything already in the sessions turned into a bit of a theme.
Jakey isn’t here to tell bed time stories, do your homework, or otherwise make up for attention deficit issues (probably caused by way too much screen time, btw).
Now if this sounds harsh, it’s just because I’m generally disagreeable.  I made all this stuff FOR. YOU. and I hope you will use it.  It just doesn’t include the credit card part, or the me in the support forum part, that’s all.
There is the free DIY route that I’ve spent many thousands of hours on putting on the site.  I really do hope that you use it, that’s why I spent all the time.  There’s our very active community with ten thousand+ members.  Everything you need is here, for sure and definitely, no money required, just please don’t complicate my already few available hours asking me to make exceptions.  😉
Remember mostly what the course is about is some structure (nice but not necessary) and my support time.  You can do this without either and you’re still getting access to what I know and a lot of my time putting it out there.  }}
====Why don't you accept payments from Hong Kong?====
{{jake says|You can’t buy the program in Hong Kong, because every time ole Jakey goes to Hong Kong he comes back with a bunch of expensive watches.
Seriously, Hong Kong is like crack to any watch addict.
Above, not actually seriously.  For various tax and banking reasons I can’t support Hong Kong based darlings at this point in time.  That means both physical residents or individuals even just using a Hong Kong based bank or card. 
I also don’t generally accept payments from the list of countries shown on the [http://sanctionswiki.org/Category:EU_Embargoed_Countries Sanctions Wiki].}}
==Free resources vs BackTo20/20 – is it worth paying?==
Blog post: [https://endmyopia.org/free-guides-blog-vs-backto2020/ Free Guides & Blog Vs. BackTo20/20]
====Does BackTo20/20 work with presbyopia?====
{{See also|Presbyopia}}
{{Jake says|This is a rather common question, and here’s an answer (that I copy-paste from an e-mail I replied to, since it probably applies equally to you).
'''
“Does endmyopia work for myopia if I also have presbyopia?”'''
Yes and... maybe.
The approach of limiting close-up strain and negative stimulus from minus lens use does work, irrespective of presbyopia symptoms. Though in practical terms the program isn’t set up to address the additional challenges that come with presbyopia, specifically the issue for accommodation range and how to make sure to preserve (or ideally increase it, thereby reversing the presbyopia too).
Issue you’ll run into is that half of the program is dealing with the close-up problem, which is a different story with presbyopia (where using less minus / or plus actually makes reading easier, and can increase presbyopia -not what you’d want). 
I haven’t found time yet to structure a separate program for presbyopia and myopia.  Hoping to be able to do so in the future!
Side note:  You can definitely both reduce your myopia and most likely your presbyopia as well.  A number of cases on the site, even one of our contributing optometrists (who has presbyopia) has reported notable improvement.  Some of the articles (more if you dig in a bit):
https://endmyopia.org/official-eye-exam-confirms-63-year-old-cuts-myopia-in-half/
https://endmyopia.org/neuroplasticity-curiously-disappearing-presbyopia/
https://endmyopia.org/myopia-cure-motivation/
For the time being though '''I’d recommend going the DIY route with the blog''' (rather than paying for the program, which doesn’t account for the presbyopia) – there’s also our Facebook group which tends to be quite supportive and helpful.  If you find the time to make it a bit of an ongoing project, you’ll absolutely get your (time) investment’s worth.}}

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Where Can I Buy BackTo20/20 Access?

See the fancy BackTo20/20 sales pages here.

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Jake says:
If you ended up on this question, you probably already noticed there’s no ‘buy’ link anywhere on the site.

You may have also noticed that I often repeat that everything you need to fix your eyes yourself, is entirely freely available in the blog (and the e-mail series). That’s no ploy. Yes, everything is all in the blog, see the how-to guides and reader stories, our Facebook group is also full of reader and student stories (well worth joining there as well, also free of course).

But anyway. You want to buy BackTo20/20?

Currently there is no guaranteed way to do so. The reason for all this hiding of BackTo20/20 from the general and casual reader public is that I’m still providing personal support, unlimited for all students there, via the support forum. Since I try to limit my daily time to around three hours for endmyopia, I only have limited time to do personal support.

And that’s why, no publicly available sales of BackTo20/20 (for now).

There are 10 invites that go out every month, to those who are most likely to benefit from the program. How do I know who should get them? That’s based on how you use this site, what you read, how closely you’re paying attention. Most likely if 1) you spent enough time researching here and 2) I have invites, you probably will get one.

I’m not very interested in heavily commercializing this resource for now. BackTo20/20 gives me a way to refine a structured approach, it’s also the basis of our current study for natural myopia control (the largest ever conducted), collecting participant data all along the way.

(The other, shorter answer is that you can subscribe to the e-mail course, do it in its entirety, you’ll get an invite at the end of it, if any are available – at that point you’ll already know if the DIY, free way is enough for you, or if you want a structured, Jake-supported approach instead)

Can I Get A Discount?

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Jake says:
Valid question.

Short answer: I’m perhaps not the guide the “discount please” individual is looking for.

Long answer: For those looking for “cheap”, or are “just browsing”, “or maybe, sometime”, and definitely the “I’d surely do it if only it was x-dollars”, and “I’m poor, give me a discount” crowd .. there are lots of alternate options, ranging from entirely free to appropriately inexpensive:

There are some worthwhile books on Amazon.com (check for the well reviewed ones). A local behavioral optometrist. Always worth considering. Sites and forums. (gettingstronger appears to have decent conversations) I’m not specifically endorsing any of them. But there are valid ideas out there.

I’ve spent quite some time working with the “discount, please” crowd, and I’ve learned from them. It’s actually almost never about the money. It’s a mindset making excuses. There are plenty of cheap books, some of them with good reviews.

Similarly, from the Q&A: Oh, I wish I would have bought it when...

Why do I have to be 25 to sign up to BackTo20/20?

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Jake says:
Blame your darling peers for this rule.

One: I had massive ongoing issues with the younger participants using parents (or other third parties) credit cards, and then me getting in trouble with parents and banks. Not worth the headache and since I only do a few invites each month, with way more people wanting in than I have space, I eventually just said ‘no more’ with the ignoring payment rules.

Two: The under 25 participants over time showed a highly disproportionate amount of support request. Where the average participant may have a question or to any given week, younglings were far, far more likely to have dozens or more questions in the same time. Not closely reading the sessions, then trying to get me to explain everything already in the sessions turned into a bit of a theme.

Jakey isn’t here to tell bed time stories, do your homework, or otherwise make up for attention deficit issues (probably caused by way too much screen time, btw).

Now if this sounds harsh, it’s just because I’m generally disagreeable. I made all this stuff FOR. YOU. and I hope you will use it. It just doesn’t include the credit card part, or the me in the support forum part, that’s all.

There is the free DIY route that I’ve spent many thousands of hours on putting on the site. I really do hope that you use it, that’s why I spent all the time. There’s our very active community with ten thousand+ members. Everything you need is here, for sure and definitely, no money required, just please don’t complicate my already few available hours asking me to make exceptions. 😉

Remember mostly what the course is about is some structure (nice but not necessary) and my support time. You can do this without either and you’re still getting access to what I know and a lot of my time putting it out there.

Why don't you accept payments from Hong Kong?

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Jake says:
You can’t buy the program in Hong Kong, because every time ole Jakey goes to Hong Kong he comes back with a bunch of expensive watches.

Seriously, Hong Kong is like crack to any watch addict.

Above, not actually seriously. For various tax and banking reasons I can’t support Hong Kong based darlings at this point in time. That means both physical residents or individuals even just using a Hong Kong based bank or card.

I also don’t generally accept payments from the list of countries shown on the Sanctions Wiki.

Free resources vs BackTo20/20 – is it worth paying?

Blog post: Free Guides & Blog Vs. BackTo20/20

Does BackTo20/20 work with presbyopia?

See also: Presbyopia

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Jake says:
This is a rather common question, and here’s an answer (that I copy-paste from an e-mail I replied to, since it probably applies equally to you).

“Does endmyopia work for myopia if I also have presbyopia?”

Yes and... maybe.

The approach of limiting close-up strain and negative stimulus from minus lens use does work, irrespective of presbyopia symptoms. Though in practical terms the program isn’t set up to address the additional challenges that come with presbyopia, specifically the issue for accommodation range and how to make sure to preserve (or ideally increase it, thereby reversing the presbyopia too).

Issue you’ll run into is that half of the program is dealing with the close-up problem, which is a different story with presbyopia (where using less minus / or plus actually makes reading easier, and can increase presbyopia -not what you’d want).

I haven’t found time yet to structure a separate program for presbyopia and myopia. Hoping to be able to do so in the future!

Side note: You can definitely both reduce your myopia and most likely your presbyopia as well. A number of cases on the site, even one of our contributing optometrists (who has presbyopia) has reported notable improvement. Some of the articles (more if you dig in a bit):

https://endmyopia.org/official-eye-exam-confirms-63-year-old-cuts-myopia-in-half/

https://endmyopia.org/neuroplasticity-curiously-disappearing-presbyopia/

https://endmyopia.org/myopia-cure-motivation/

For the time being though I’d recommend going the DIY route with the blog (rather than paying for the program, which doesn’t account for the presbyopia) – there’s also our Facebook group which tends to be quite supportive and helpful. If you find the time to make it a bit of an ongoing project, you’ll absolutely get your (time) investment’s worth.
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